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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.07.28 06:55:00 -
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No! Just No!
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.04 08:31:00 -
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Edited by: Ban Doga on 04/08/2010 08:32:32
Originally by: CCP Zinfandel We are also looking for ways to communicate more about what is happening behind the scenes. Honestly, that's probably where folks like myself can contribute the most to EVE Online.
If you already came to that conclusion why don't you act upon it?!
Time and again some CCP folk will post "we know we should work on improving communication, that's the one thing we can all do to improve the situation" and then nothing happens. Why is it so hard for you guys to translate insight into actions?!
And don't start with those mass tests again. We can only show you the door and have done so many times in those tests, but going through it is entirely your job. If can't or don't want to do that, then no amount of testing will change a thing (see also "Why is it so hard for you guys to translate insight into actions?!")
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.11 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: devildog215 Edited by: devildog215 on 11/08/2010 03:32:40 74 pages and no straight answer from CCP! good job CCP!!!! just for that i voted for some random 3rd party game
*takes bait*
Answer to what?
Maybe to "Do you think it's justified to be awarded 'Best MMO' when serious technical issues (grid loading and black-screening) remain in game for more than one release cycle?" Or to "Do you think there is a correlation between quality of the product and customer satisfaction? And do you think there is a correlation between custom satisfaction and willingness to support a product/company as customer?" Or to "Do you think more than 2,000 supporting votes in an Assembly Hall thread calling for more "Excellence" is a sign of perceived lack of quality?" Or to "Do you think that the threadnaught following the CSM minutes and devblog provided a good situation to ask for your customers support?"
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.11 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba *reels in the juicy trout*
Originally by: Ban Doga Maybe to "Do you think it's justified to be awarded 'Best MMO' when serious technical issues (grid loading and black-screening) remain in game for more than one release cycle?"
When it only effects a small minority of the game regardless of where that minority might stand in the view of the marketing department? Yup. Eve is sooooooooo much more than a blobby fleet fight.
Originally by: Ban Doga Or to "Do you think there is a correlation between quality of the product and customer satisfaction? And do you think there is a correlation between custom satisfaction and willingness to support a product/company as customer?"
The vast majority of the game is working just dandy and with the constant increase in overall subscriptions it seems the playerbase agrees that eve is one of the best sandbox space based mmos evah. That they don't arse themselves to vote on some obscure marketing site is just the nature of the playerbase.
Originally by: Ban Doga Or to "Do you think more than 2,000 supporting votes in an Assembly Hall thread calling for more "Excellence" is a sign of perceived lack of quality?"
2000 supporting votes minus the supporting alts of course. Then there is this little thing about having nearly 400k active subs but a thread can only get 2000 into it? Seems a rather small number to shape the destiny of an entire game that is so much more than fleet fights online.
Originally by: Ban Doga Or to "Do you think that the threadnaught following the CSM minutes and devblog provided a good situation to ask for your customers support?"
Pffft. There have only been three real threadnaughts in the entire history of the forums. Number one was the t20 hilarity. Nothing will ever top that. Ever. Number two was the nano nerf. So many angry vaga and typhoon owners with multi billion isk at the time full hg snake implants with lulz exspensive polys and faction nanos. Sooooooo much rage. Number three(and the best imho) was the proposed mothership changes that included letting them dock. CCP troll best troll is all I can say about that lulz.
Do you need any moar answers?
Thanks for the effort but as stated above: the answers are expected from CCP. (I think your point of view has been demonstrated quite clearly enough times)
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.11 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 11/08/2010 07:31:16
Originally by: Ban Doga Thanks for the effort but as stated above: the answers are expected from CCP. (I think your point of view has been demonstrated quite clearly enough times)
I don't need to be employed by ccp to reply in a way that probably mirrors what they are thinking. I don't have any special interests to support and so don't care about the eve forum lobbyist movement. Granted they are superb fun to knock about in a thread and the entire reason I regulary log into the forums. And I keep putting out my point of view because narrow minded gits keep squawking about how the overall game is total fail because their little corner of it is broken. Tit for tat tbh. Don't like it? Get a better offense.
The question is not whether I like what you say or not, but whether it's relevant to me or not. Your point of view is irrelevant, since I don't care about how probable it is that some player has the same opinion as an official CCP employee. I care about the official CCP "opinion".
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Adida If you have something to contribute to this thread that is fine. Do not bump the thread simply to bump this is against the forum rules specifically #12.
According to the mentioned forum rules bumping is not allowed.
But the linked explanation of bumping refers to spaceships. Now I'm confused. Did anyone park his freighter in this thread?
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 12/08/2010 18:21:04
Originally by: Ban Doga
Originally by: CCP Adida If you have something to contribute to this thread that is fine. Do not bump the thread simply to bump this is against the forum rules specifically #12.
According to the mentioned forum rules bumping is not allowed.
But the linked explanation of bumping refers to spaceships. Now I'm confused. Did anyone park his freighter in this thread?
Strange. Adida's link goes to the forum rules of which number 12 is stated as thus: Originally by: Forum Rules Spamming, bumping and pyramid quoting are prohibited. Spam is defined as the repetitive posting of the same topic or text or nonsensical posts that have no substance and are often designed to annoy other forum users. This includes ôfirstö and ôgo back to <another game>ö posts. Bumping posts in order to keep them near the top of the list is also prohibited. Petitions or "/signed" posts are a version of bumping and likewise are not permitted. Pyramid quoting is a response to a forum thread that contains the quotes of four or more previous posters, sometimes with additional spaces added unnecessarily. Posts of this nature are not conducive to community spirit and are unwelcome.
whilst your link goes to the rules about bumping ships. Par for the course in this thread tbh. Sooo many spin jockeys in here we might as well rename the thread 'FOX NEWS: Always fair and balanced'.
edit; BUMP!
Just try clicking on the linked word "bumping" in the forum rules you copypasta'd. Then the strangeness will subside.
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Ban Doga Just try clicking on the linked word "bumping" in the forum rules you copypasta'd. Then the strangeness will subside.
Yeah just noticed that. We should start a thread about it tbh. Stupid crap like this is obviously ruining the game.
No, we should ignore such inconsistencies. After all there are new features to be implemented.
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.12 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: HarrietMiers
That said, how many times have you posted in this thread? Be honest
http://www.eve-search.com/stats/thread/1360067
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.12 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails there seems to be peanut butter on your nose lol
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.13 06:32:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Here is the rub. I want ccp to fix fleet fight lag just as bad as anyone else. My sympathies go to everyone including myself who sank tens and tens of billions of isk into all the revelant cap skills and ships to outfit all my combat alts in shiney hotdrop style. Even had a few prospective offers to get into the nullsec game by joining one of the fw corps nullsec divisions so I was all happy and giddy to get started. Then Dominion hit and it all went up in a lag bomb. So yeah I too have lots of annoyance over all this stuff I was wanting to do suddenly getting yoinked out from under me. I can only imagine what it feels like for the ones who already were waist deep in it.
But really. Was it nessesary to highjack this and multiple other threads and turn them into a 'we can't fleet fight' rage fest? What does it accomplish? The needed coding revisions certainly are not going to get sped up on fixing it over pages and pages of rage. Plus noone can toss the 18 month misquote out over it because ccp has stated over and over they never stopped working on the fix for lag even with incarna and dust getting the lions share of the content creation devs(who by the way all suck at fixing lag) that won't work on other aspects of eve for that constantly tossed out 18 month snippet. Now besides fleet fight lag are there issues that need to be dealt with? Certainly. I will be one of the first to wag his finger in faction warfares general direction and give ccp a stern look about how the promised fleshing out never got past Soon.
But is faction warfare unplayably broken like fleet fights? Not at all. Granted the rr alts are annoying as is the lack of an official reason to undock and pew pew with the less than effective plexing mechanic but we still go out and have a ball every single day of the week. Same can be said for most other areas of eve. Do they need some lovin? Very much so. Cosmos is a prime example with its bpo rewards that for certain mods are fairly useless compared to named and t2 not to mention faction so noone really uses the content. But its still doable and gets you other rewards like fast stadings increases and some decent research agents so again it can wait for 18 months.
One can even surmise that the silver lining to the fleet fight thunderstorm of doom is that because there has been no ability to field sov destoying cap ship fleets that nullsec is more populated now than it ever was. So basically the lag let anyone with the corp skills and access to a hauler to setup shop and improve his system without fear of getting dropped by PL or the Goons or any nearby bored alliance just for the lulz. So now we have everyone all nice and cozy with plentiful outposts and cynojammers just waiting for lag to be fixed as they milk their upgrades for isk. Plus it should be waaaaaay more fun than if only the large previously established alliances had been able to pwn at will from day one locking everyone else out yet again.
Well true, nothing we can write on the forum will speed up the work. But sitting here, laughing and trolling won't help either.
Silently accepting that fleet warfare is broken due to lag and unstable grid-loading is really like the ignorant child that keeps telling herself "everything will be fine, someone will fix it". But that requires that someone is aware of the problem and gives a damn about fixing it (hope). Of course the "RAWR FIX IT ALREADY" will appear choleric but ultimately is an expression of "hey, here's a problem, I want that fixed now" (anger).
I don't think it's a special bonus that lag transformed the new sov-system into a stalemate. If anything it shows the wide consequences of lag and that either CCP accepted those consequences (terribad) or was unaware of them (bad).
IMO this demonstrates a lack of focus and/or ability of the people working on in-space features and that is a slippery slope. 2 expansions in a row showed these symptoms, I don't want a 3rd one.
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.15 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: weaselalt
Originally by: Apollo Gabriel Eve's score isn't listed, the other games all have a score and percentage, Eve does not. Perhaps they are waiting 18 months for the vote count.
Not funny I know, but a dev used the joke so I gotta follow up.
Those are review scores from metacritic and gamerankings, not votes.
Assuming that the page is ordered from most votes-> least votes, it looks like battlefield won and eve came in last behind arma.
Why don't you stop looking at the list of nominees and look at the results (which haven't been published yet)
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.16 05:51:00 -
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Edited by: Ban Doga on 16/08/2010 05:51:51
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Pesky LaRue
Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Pesky LaRue Congrats to CCP - now, the game needs a LOT of love, but this is still THE best MMOG out there.
Yes indeed. Get ****ing incarna and dust out the door and tweaked to the rational players satisfaction so you can get to fixing FACTION WARFARE!!!
completely agree!
Fixed.
Also: Bah. If the fleet fight guys can whinge about their part of the game then I can whinge about my part of the game.
Actually the voting proved that fleet fights, faction warfare and PI in the current implementation make the best MMO in Europe. Why should CCP risk not getting this award next year by changing it?!
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Ban Doga
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Posted - 2010.08.16 05:59:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: Ban Doga Actually the voting proved that fleet fights, faction warfare and PI in the current implementation make the best MMO in Europe.
Yes, because thats all there is to do in eve.
Glad you agree
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